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On the opening day there will be speeches by Peter May, PPC for Swansea West, Roger Williams MP, Welsh Liberal Democrat Leader Kirsty Williams and the Federal Leader, Nick Clegg.
Subjects discussed will include The Future of Social Care, A Fair Deal for All Our Children, Fairer Taxes and Making Private Sector Housing Work.
There is a full programme of fringe events and exhibitions. For more details, see the Conference Guides on LibDem Today.
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And everybody will exercise Teutonic phlegm about not mentioning the war to promote genocide, the "Lib" Dems are so enthusiastic for, the massacres, the sexual slavery of children & the dissection of living people.
Bet somebody mentions the Holocaust though.
What are you on, Neil?
The truth. You should try imbibing it sometime.
Or are you saying I am wrong & it was mentioned? :-)
Neil, your truth is what I would call fantasy.
- Frank Little
I'm sure you would. Any particular grounds? Do you deny that massacres, genocide, ethnic cleansing of 350,000, the sexual enslavement of children & the dissection of living people took place under our command authority. Alternately are you saying it was mentio9ned.
How do you genocide deniers feel about Auschwitz? Are you complete hypocrits or do you call that "fantasy" too?
Of all parties, how could the Liberal Democrats be accused of genocide, sexual slavery, vivisection or Shoah denial? Even if we were that hypocritical to go against what is in our constitution, we have never had enough power to carry out those horrors.
- Frank Little
Are you seriously trying to rewrite history by saying that the LibDems did not support, enthusiastically, the bombing of Yugoslavia or that MPs were not perfectly aware that that war was being fought to assist the NATO armed (&Ashdown trained) KLA to help out in their campaign of racial genocide?
Do you deny that the LDs supported appointing the (Ashdown trained) KLA as "police" so that under our command authority & protectionm they were aithorised to engage in massacres, ethnic cleansing, genoccide, shild sex slavery & organlegging? Can you name a single LD member who has objected to this holocausr & called for those who promoted it to face trial?
If you can deny it you are following the principles of 1984. If you can't & still support the party you are knowingly supporting Nazism.
So if I don't endorse in full your extremist view of history, I am an Orwellian liar, and if I do, I'm a Nazi? Heads you win, tails I lose?
Or, if your claims are truthful you could say what evidence you have that the LibDems did not support that war. Or you could deny that any the massacres, genocide, ethnic cleansing, sexual enslavement & dissection happened & again say why they appear to have
Your heads/tales analogy only applies if you refuse those options & have accepted that you & your party did indeed engage in criminal wars & racial genocide & lied to pretend otherwise. If you have accepted that then what exactly is the basis for your whine about being called Orwellian or Nazi?
The most I will accept is that the NATO action in Kosovo probably breached the UN charter, but not to the extent of the Iraq adventure, and that the bombing was certainly excessive. If EU had got involved earlier, instead of running to the Americans, some of the grief might have been avoided.
I don't accept the outcomes you describe.
Since there is no way we can reach agreement on this, and that we are a long way from the topics covered by a domestic conference (the subject of the original posting) this correspondence is now closed.
Feel free to take your concerns to a Liberal Democrat federal site.
- Frank Little
The breach was very much greater than with Iraq, for a number of reasons, most seriously that it was knowingly fought to assist in genocide. You give no reasons for making that claim & I assume you know you can't & that you thus know you are lying in the Nazi cause.
In denying that massacres, the ethnic cleansing of 350,000 people & the dissection of living people happened you are demonstrating that you are simply a racist genocide denier.
See the NATO funded war crimes "prosecutor" admitting this http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/ips040108.htm
The party leadership are, of course, fully aware of everthing I have said here & unlike you & with the exception of Shirley Williams have not been stupid enough to attempt to deny it.
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